If it was anything other than a suicide, I think this is the most plausible reasoning. That's all my pea brain can think of at the moment. [–]International-Sir902 45 points46 points47 points 3 months ago (6 children). Whoever wanted her dead wouldn't need to bother trying to cover up the fact that she was a spy, only who she was spying for. You can go and watch the series now. RadioTimes.com has learned the episode will discuss exorcist Kansho Aizawa, who has reportedly seen undead spirits in the area. [–]dancingtomyowntune 19 points20 points21 points 3 months ago (7 children). This would also be a German-speaking thing to do. So her body was pumped with a lot of preservatives. I feel ‘Jennifer’ was able to get into the room due to it either being paid for, or the receptionist was bribed (very fishy that the receptionist wasn’t brought up in the evidence AT ALL) and the fact that there is no family for someone so young suggests perhaps she maybe didn’t have any - something very common in officers who carry out secret and more dangerous work in governments. But it's also pretty standard for spies from what I understand. Netflix’s Unsolved Mysteries has lastly returned for Season 2! [–]myfriendsfoundme-1tm 118 points119 points120 points 3 months ago (59 children). And the show should’ve questioned why they didn’t ask after it happened. He's in the phone book and the house number was clearly visible and the neighbor has been known to the cops for decades. [–]feedthecorpse 84 points85 points86 points 3 months ago (15 children). In a hotel room! I also think if it was a professional hit, why did the assailant shoot her after the security guard knocked? That seems unlikely. I find it extremely hard to believe her hand came to rest on her body like that naturally. Wouldn't it be better to kill her literally any other time? To support the above statement, the guard heard the gunshot at 19:50. Maybe she didn’t bring belongings like her keys and wallet because she knew she’d never need them again. it was said she fired two shots, one was like a test-shot through a pillow. [–]paroles 72 points73 points74 points 3 months ago (0 children). Unsolved Mysteries season 2, episode 1 is a strong opener, dealing with a high profile case that links to the White House. Maybe knew security protocols in the event of an incident like that? [–]mirume 43 points44 points45 points 3 months ago (2 children). After hiring several private investigators and pathologists, Michelle says several findings emerged that should open up the case. Best episode of this season. It’s so horribly sad and there are plenty of unanswered questions in this specific case but in general it is not completely unbelievable that she planned and followed through with all of this by herself. Lots of things not adding up. 3) In 1993 not as much CCTV as nowadays, but personally struggling to remember exactly what was said about it. Could it instead be that she was killed the Friday night? His body was found in an abandoned room in the second-story annex of the Belvedere Hotel in Baltimore, and it was widely assumed he had fallen to his death. [–]framemegirl 82 points83 points84 points 3 months ago (14 children). No harm in trying. Weird story and behaviour of a security guard(who would just hide for 15 minutes and then talking to head of security, instead of calling the police on spot. I wonder if he worked for the Government, at any point. 3day time window and someone killed right at that moment when the security was there? It's a rather complicated procedure and you need a certificate to buy one legally. Hot. They should put her DNA on 23andme, see if she has any relatives. Add photo Real Name: Jeremy Doland Bright Nicknames: No known nicknames Location: Myrtle Point, Oregon Date: August 14, 1986 Occupation: Student Date of Birth: May 25, 1972 Height:6'0" Weight: 140 pounds Marital Status: Single Characteristics: Caucasian male. Years later, her identity - and her death - remain a mystery. Because his part of the story has the most number of loopholes. Someone who has no will to live might not care to pack a toothbrush and toiletries. Plot twist: the security guard is an intelligence agent. One time a front desk clerk checked in some friends of the head of Human Resources, as she had instructed the clerk to do, with no card on file and no ID on file. and "Why shoot as soon as someone knocked on the door?". They want people in this subreddit (and the many other forums for armchair detectives) to have juicy stuff to dig into and talk about. Her hair was really short on top which makes me think she recently had it cut; hair that has been let to grow a couple months usually softens down. Yeah the position of both of her hands is so weird! However, according to Norweigan paper Verdens Gang, soon details about the case became more intriguing. They could easily know the hotel owner or pull some strings to let people like Jennifer to check in undisturbed under a fake alias. [–]SherlockBeaver 60 points61 points62 points 3 months ago (1 child). And perhaps the second shot fired was the one heard by the security guard on Saturday? As previously teased by executive producer Terry Dunn Meurer, viewers can expect a ghost story and two mysteries based outside of the US among the second volume of enigmas. On the 30th December, when Wheeler was last sighted alive, he was seen wandering outside several office buildings looking “confused and disoriented” at 8.30pm. Also, has some resemblances to the case of Tamam Shud, the man who was found on a beach in Australia with basically nothing except the words "Tamam Shud" seen into his clothes which, if I remember correctly, is Hebrew for "it is finished". Looking at her portrait I would say she has Eastern European facial characteristics. It wasn't exactly clear from the episode where the entry and exit wounds were. It is hard to think that operations like this can be carried out every day anywhere around the world and not fall down into believing all conspiracy theories - but this is the only one that makes at least some sense and covers everything presented in the episode. Here’s everything you need to know about Unsolved Mysteries Volume 2. I think the signs clearly point to a professional hit (intelligence most likely) and likely by someone she knew. [–]Esterence 11 points12 points13 points 3 months ago (0 children). This is what always bothers me about "black ops", cloak and dagger, secret evil government spook stuff. [–]International-Sir902 32 points33 points34 points 3 months ago (1 child), Also very famous mysterious case in Australia where the victim was never identified. I wanna go out and piss so bad and I'm scared af. Following his death, a video of Jack Wheeler a day emerged, showing the 66-year-old looking disorientated while wearing only one shoe. The gun was depressed by her thumb when they found her. Good point. She'd been hotel-hopping a lot, and spoke several languages quite well. REDDIT and the ALIEN Logo are registered trademarks of reddit inc. π Rendered by PID 14101 on r2-app-03f2f576b9a985105 at 2021-02-14 12:20:54.812239+00:00 running 6289523 country code: NL. Super fucking cool. Wouldn't a professional hitman or spy already have everything prepped? Just recently Oslo police sent a request to Interpol to try to indetify the fingerprint, but no news of this yet. use the following search parameters to narrow your results: Although our fearless leader, Robert Stack, has since passed away, around the world there still remains unsolved crimes and missing persons, as well as unexplained history and paranormal phenomena. He could have also entered the room with her willingly, which would then explain how he got in without something flagging up on the door handle. Something the show didn’t mention either was that there was (IIRC) two separate occasions they tried to reach her about lack of payment before sending the security guard. Yeah, the tamam shud story. It was their only option. How can anyone ignore that on top of the other inconsistencies? Details: Fourteen-year-old Jeremy Bright … [–]SUMIFISNA 30 points31 points32 points 3 months ago (3 children). Obvious leads left hanging to viewers that I would think are even more savvy than usual. Ex-NFL Player Missing From a Few Years Ago. The only reason I could think of why no one asked for her ID/card is if the receptionist in question was briefed beforehand by someone in authority, saying that she was an important person. [–]Escilas 41 points42 points43 points 3 months ago (5 children). They may not be involved but they might be hiding information to protect the hotel. [–]International-Sir902 47 points48 points49 points 3 months ago* (1 child). The HR Director was terminated. [–]WabbieSabbie 161 points162 points163 points 3 months ago (15 children). Reading the real case files, apparently 2 shots were fired into the mattress that night. The gun was on the floor, not on the bed, not in her hand. Happened in another case with a mysterious woman in Norway, killed and partially burned up at Isdalen outside Bergen. As hinted at in the series trailer, Unsolved Mysteries Volume 2 will delve into alleged ghost sightings in Ishinomaki, Japan following a devastating tsunami in 2011. https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/6evqa7/in_1995_jennifer_fergate_was_found_dead_in_her/, [–]C22H19N3O4 9 points10 points11 points 3 months ago (0 children), [–]Popular_Target 87 points88 points89 points 3 months ago (81 children). [–]La_Mexifina 29 points30 points31 points 3 months ago (6 children). The C-14 thing to determine the age is friggin fascinating. Edit: the Postal code is also wrong btw. Hmm ok, thank you! It's like saying someone must be from City X in the US because they gave 123 Main Street City X as their address. Exactly! Is this possible that her thumb would then still be pressing down on the trigger? ), [–]catecismo 48 points49 points50 points 3 months ago (10 children). I hope they pin this comment because this thread you've linked COMPLETELY changes my perspective on the case and rules out suicide as far as I'm concerned. If this was a hit, perhaps this was part of the fabricated story to get the 'suicide' theory to work. [–]nachosallday 32 points33 points34 points 3 months ago (3 children), [–]craftsntowers 28 points29 points30 points 3 months ago (1 child). wow, this is an insane detail to leave out of the episode. [–]kerrtaincall 28 points29 points30 points 3 months ago (1 child). [–]belladonnaoflavendar 33 points34 points35 points 3 months ago (6 children). Additionally, the pillow might have been used as a silencer so that the shot fired to kill her was not heard. She was possibly recruited due to having no family ties or anyone to ID her. I can’t even handle how no one will own up What does exist is "Rue du Stade" (without 'h'), extremely popular in France according to wiki, 2400 streetnames like that, I assume it's somewhat similar in Wallonia. These professional government hitmen can get through double locked doors, lock them again from the outside, erase security cameras, erase fingerprints, get people checked into hotels that require ID, without ID, vanish with no one seeing them. [–]smallframedfairy 423 points424 points425 points 3 months ago (67 children). That's the bit that makes me think it was a suicide tbh. Oh man, that 15 minute gap inbetween (instant of the police being informed on the spot) is bothering me so much. We caught up with Unsolved Mysteries' co-creator Terry Dunn Meurer about the status of season 1's unsolved cases as well as what to expect from season 2. Immersive, character-driven stories are rooted in the experiences of ordinary people who have lived the unthinkable. She could have well been a sex worker that regularly serviced clients in the hotel. Now the fact that her body was there is THE thing that makes me believe she wasn’t. How do you know they aren't going to come right in when they hear that? SO much interesting info left out. I do, at least ¯\_(ツ)_/¯, [–]stardustclouds 69 points70 points71 points 3 months ago (8 children). honestly I think the omitted information is by design. Yeah why does UM keep leaving these crucial details out of the episodes? Rising. Yeah the part where the gunshot goes off at the same time the security guard knocks is really weird. But they make a big deal about 25 bullets being found in her brief case. To me his answers were very broad and open ended. It's either a strange coincidence or a connection. Covert ops man. After using the pillow, it was then tossed aside. How is the hotel so poorly run (especially apparently such a nice one) that they can't hold anyone accountable for checking someone in without ID? Hot New Top. Could/ should do the same for this case & see if any hits. There's no family or relative claiming to know her. [–]Skrp 231 points232 points233 points 3 months ago (148 children). Total opposite of acrid. But there was also another gun shot in the room, fired into a pillow. MEGATHREAD: UNSOLVED MYSTERIES (NETFLIX) VOL. They were probably using regular video tapes, that get rewritten after 24 hours. An Unsolved Mysteries Jack Wheeler Reddit theory demands attention from Netflix audiences, ... Fire Force season 2 episode 17 release date and time: International premiere explained . Usually they have weaponry in their squad cars though. They keep asking how she was able to check in without ID or credit card. The 15 minutes to get help is odd could even have been longer as you are going off his account of the gunshot, you would be racing to get help or entering the room after the gunshot. How did they leave the door double locked? Just my thought but this doesn’t seem like a ‘normal’ killing. Unless... that was exactly what she wanted. [–]jrzbarb 12 points13 points14 points 3 months ago (0 children). Some members might even be in the police dept and government. My theory is your #4, the security guard was lying. From the beginning their description of the room and her behavior screams someone who has planned their own death. I was thinking she may have ordered the meal, not eaten it for whatever reason, then later she started getting the notifications to go to the front desk to give her credit card information (which she didn't have), so she couldn't order any more food and had to settle for what was left from before. bribed? I was low key kinda disappointed. She was another unidentified woman found dead in norway, who had also checked into hotels with fake names and tags cut off clothing. Unsolved Mysteries season two will hopefully air in 2020 (Image: NETFLIX) Unfortunately, an official release date has not yet been confirmed by Netflix for volume two of Unsolved Mysteries. I think she's a hitwoman or an undercover agent. [–]-amare 10 points11 points12 points 3 months ago (1 child), my neice has a sensory issue with tags in clothes so they have to cut them out or buy clothes with the tags printed on the fabric, just throwing that out there as a possible reason, [–]sgtpeppies 222 points223 points224 points 3 months ago (53 children). They get their variety on the sugar side or the diet side, but back and forth is rare. (if they are telling the truth, which I don't believe they are) The rest of the episode was just flabbergasting. No ID, no credit card - this is a 5 star hotel who was dealing with high security clients. This makes me think- What if she was killed earlier and the second shot which the security guard heard was actually the shot fired into the pillow to scare the knocker away and in meantime, giving whosoever it was, time to flee? The Roku Channel is your home for free and premium TV, anywhere you go. [–]Littlemonster93 48 points49 points50 points 3 months ago* (6 children), Why would the security go into a room after hearing a gunshot from inside? She ordered it from room service about 24 hours before her death and yet the meal was found in her body in a way that suggested she had only just eaten it before her death. They showed it in the episode but never discuss it. She shot herself and I had to report to the police. A second batch of rebooted mysteries dropped earlier this week, quickly rising to the number two spot on Netflix’s top ten lists. [–]spaceship416 209 points210 points211 points 3 months ago (12 children). maybe she cut it short so it'd be harder to recognize her... [–]almond_flour 26 points27 points28 points 3 months ago (0 children). [–]Escilas 99 points100 points101 points 3 months ago (15 children). This means there was no water in her lungs when her body was found, indicating her breathing was affected before she entered the water. Holding the slide or stop/hammer area as demonstrated in the episode for suicide could cause injuries to the hands, similar to the ones seen in that "typical" suicide photo. WHAT IF the body was actually removed indeed, and replaced with a new one. For more information about how we hold your personal data, please see our privacy policy. Every morning in the hotel business section guests were given a free newspaper in a bag with the room number written on it. That took 15 minutes. But do you travel under a fake name with no identification, a case of bullets and no toiletries? Although the new trailer gives away the title of each episode, they didn’t reveal much information about each specific case. [–]thebrandedman 244 points245 points246 points 3 months ago (10 children). If she hadn’t been there I would have been 100% sold she was working for the government. The final episode of Unsolved Mysteries Volume One looks at the disappearance of Lena Chapin – a woman who claimed her mother killed her father. I said to my SO “I bet she’s gone” when they were digging her up. 2) There was no signs of a struggle. [–]SherlockBeaver 166 points167 points168 points 3 months ago (32 children). One cop shot another cop in the leg with her own gun while it was on her hip. I don’t blame him for getting backup first. He doesn’t know what went on in there, he would put himself in danger by going in assuming if it was a homicide. They try to make pretty obvious cases mysterious, but make really weird and suspicious cases less sketchy. I'm convinced the hotel was booked and payed for by the gov agency she was working for , that's why everything basically went away went things went bad. [–]Escilas 19 points20 points21 points 3 months ago (2 children). Which means the same person has entered. At the very least it would require a supervisor to approve the check in! I have my own stories of inept cops. [–]vu051 21 points22 points23 points 3 months ago (1 child). how come they didn't make a sketch of her with long hair? This seems like a small detail but the moment I saw the picture of both bottles it made me think of two people. I've read Mikita Brottman's book which is about another case that has been on Unsolved Mysteries. [–]catecismo 43 points44 points45 points 3 months ago (46 children). That part was really frustrating - did they not have on file all the employees who checked in to work that day, who confirmed her reservation, who said hello to her from the desk? In short, no clerk would ever risk breaking policy this way unless specifically ordered to do so by someone in upper management. Found his bags at a train station. So if he heard gunshots, maybe he didn't want to be an unarmed hero until he got some backup or could retrieve his weapon. She was murdered and the killer was still in the room cleaning up when the security guard knocked and announced himself as security. This one was a weird one. [–]ryanpm40 32 points33 points34 points 3 months ago (0 children), I thought the guy found it suspicious that there was so much body left, as if it wasn't really her, [–]-amare 21 points22 points23 points 3 months ago (0 children), i really felt they were implying that and was confused when she was there lol, [–]Marta1305 858 points859 points860 points 3 months ago (386 children). While I was leaning towards suicide on this case, the lack of blood spatter on her hands threw me off. I imagine she would have looked really different with longer hair, with bangs, etc. Like she probably just bribed them with cash. Everyone should read the article the journalist wrote. The Night Manager was OKing him to do this, and just bumping his bill to be paid upon checkout, on the new checkout date. It bothers me a bit how much they focused on the woman maintaining a grip on the weapon, stating such things as the caliber of the weapon being too large to maintain the grip as the weapon fired. Although serving time on death row for several years, he escaped police custody in 1975 and has been on the run ever since. Her being likely from Germany made me immediately think of KGB/Stasi. [–]International-Sir902 124 points125 points126 points 3 months ago* (13 children). Estimated reading time: 6 minutes. I believe this was someone who was very experienced. They clearly want us to lean towards the secret agent angle, rather than this woman committed suicide and really really didn’t want anyone to know and yet we’re broadcasting her story on international television. Cops took aaages to respond. She didn't wipe it herself. This was very much against policy, and the friends ended up trashing the room, getting drunk and disorderly and thrown out of the hotel (by me as a matter of fact). [–]Squirrel_Emergency 11 points12 points13 points 3 months ago (1 child). The problem is, with the checkout date constantly pushed for another few weeks, the checkout never came -- no one ever charged the man's card. I agree. What if she was shot much earlier by someone else, and then when the security guard knocked on the door, whoever shot her put the gun in her hand and fired it into the pillow. [–]SomethingAboutMeowy 92 points93 points94 points 3 months ago (5 children). Its all very suspicious. Damn 1930’s Catholics and their secret babies out of wedlock (we don’t know that that’s actually what happened, her moms been dead for 15 years). If she was working as an operative she would likely be switching up her appearance. That was the biggest flag to me that this wasn't a suicide. Honestly, to me the shot after the knock makes far more sense with a suicide than with a murder - a murderer would be worried about being caught, and has no way to know that the hotel employee won't respond by immediately entering the room. And what caused his strange behaviour? Chloroform has an acrid, acidic smell. [–]magiclostinstardust 81 points82 points83 points 3 months ago (5 children). He did the right thing by leaving the scene ASAP and get backups call the police, maybe not taking 15 mins to get backups but going in the room alone especially unarmed is not the best option, [–]hannavas_eel 81 points82 points83 points 3 months ago (5 children).